I just listened to a great episode of NPR’s Wait Wait…Don’t Tell Me!, with Michael Pollan as a guest. Also great, comedian Paula Poundstone’s debate with Pollan about whether a ring-ding (not to be confused with a ding-dong) qualifies as real food (less than 5 ingredients): “Devil’s food cake, that’s one. Creamy filling…two. And chocolate coating! That’s only 3!” Definitely worth a listen.

“To sum up his work, he says ‘Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.’ Which, of course, is entirely un-American.”- Host, Peter Sagal

“We’re very confused about food…What other species needs experts to tell them how to eat?” – Michael Pollan

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